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Londoni politsei jäi valetamisega vahele
postitas mauri brazil osak. 15:31 17th august, 2005
Londoni "politsei" tapetud brasiillase kohta väideti juulikuus, et see kandis paksu ja pikka mantlit, oli asiaadi välimusega ning ei tea mida veel. Asjast pasundasid 22. juulil ka kohalikud agentuurid, kes nüüd salapäraselt vaikivad. Briti kanal ITV News on kätte saanud nii salajased dokumendid kui ka fotod, mis tõestavad, et politsei valetas. Harilikku teksajakki kandev Brasiilia päritolu Jean Charles De Menezes jalutas rahulikult rongile ning ostis teel ajalehe. Metroos istet võtnud ei saanud ta siiski värsket lehte nautida, sest ta suruti vastu maad ja kõmmutati 8 kuuli pähe ja ülakehasse. Erinevalt politsei väidetest ei hüpanud ta üle piirdetarade ega jätnud piletit ostmata. Politsei sisemist raportit refereerib ITV uudis (lka), sellest, et politseid "assisteerisid" saatuslikul metrookülastusel SAS eriüksuslased kirjutab The Times.
Mistakes led to tube shooting
11.05PM, Tue Aug 16 2005
ITV News has obtained secret documents and photographs that detail why police shot Jean Charles De Menezes dead on the tube.
The Brazilian electrician was killed on 22 July, the day after the series of failed bombings on the tube and bus network.
The crucial mistake that ultimately led to his death was made at 9.30am when Jean Charles left his flat in Scotia Road, South London.
Surveillance officers wrongly believed he could have been Hussain Osman, one of the prime suspects, or another terrorist suspect.
By 10am that morning, elite firearms officers were provided with what they describe as "positive identification" and shot De Menezes eight times in the head and upper body.
The documents and photographs confirm that Jean Charles was not carrying any bags, and was wearing a denim jacket, not a bulky winter coat, as had previously been claimed.
He was behaving normally, and did not vault the barriers, even stopping to pick up a free newspaper.
He started running when we saw a tube at the platform. Police had agreed they would shoot a suspect if he ran.
A document describes CCTV footage, which shows Mr de Menezes entered Stockwell station at a "normal walking pace" and descended slowly on an escalator.
The document said: "At some point near the bottom he is seen to run across the concourse and enter the carriage before sitting in an available seat.
"Almost simultaneously armed officers were provided with positive identification."
A member of the surveillance team is quoted in the report. He said: "I heard shouting which included the word `police' and turned to face the male in the denim jacket.
"He immediately stood up and advanced towards me and the CO19 officers. I grabbed the male in the denim jacket by wrapping both my arms around his torso, pinning his arms to his side.
"I then pushed him back on to the seat where he had been previously sitting. I then heard a gun shot very close to my left ear and was dragged away onto the floor of the carriage."
The report also said a post mortem examination showed Mr de Menezes was shot seven times in the head and once in the shoulder, but three other bullets missed, with the casings left lying in the tube carriage.
Police have declined to comment while the mistaken killing is still being investigated.
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Huvitaval kombel valmistas politseile selle ebameeldiva olukorda just paljuräägitud CCTV, mis otsapidi isegi minutisse jõudis ja mida paar uudis allpool "muljetäratavaks võimaluseks inimesele järele nuhkimiseks" tituleeriti. Nüüd ilmselt on leitud vastus ka küsimusele: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Ja leitud, et senikaua kui leidub vahimehi, leidub ka vahimehi, kes nende järele nuhivad.
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Selline komm oli pandud blogipostituse alla kuskil. Ei olnud seal Londonis 7/7 mingeid suitsiiditerroriste. Makes you wonder.
Your quite right, this stinks big time, especially more so as you look at this people's background.
To be a teacher to special needs children requires a special dedication to human beings and their lives. To have a wife pregnant with another child means that you have a lot to look forward to. To be a dedicated cricket or football player with a sport's degree under your belt means that you have a passion for physical achievement and team play.
To go on a sophisticated mission in such an un-sophisticated manner, as you said, going together, presumably each with his own bomb in his rucksack, as well as carrying all type of identity markers, like credit cards and mobile phones, flies in the face of consistency.
For the prime minister to go on TV barely two hour after the attacks, when nobody new how things really happened and the police saying that they had no knowledge of any risk and to blame in front of the whole world, Muslims, is more like propaganda than what a responsible head of government would want to do. At least before pronouncing himself on Muslims and Islam he could have waited for a few days until the enquiry became clearer.
So it all stinks as much as 911 stinks when just a few hours later a car was retrieved in Boston airport with copies of the Qur'an and flight manuals etc.
I feel very deeply for the families of these men being accused. So far, some of their relatives have come out with profound shock and dismay that their children could have done such a thing. One never knows what goes into a human being's head, but their families simply cannot imagine their boys being anywhere near thinking doing such a thing. In fact, it transpires that a couple of those men were arrested a few months ago on petty offences, one was shoplifting, and released on the spot. Hardly your hardened "jihadist" character.
Instead we are now into full fling theological analysis of the meanings of the Qur'an in the British press media, where anyone and his dog come to profess on Islam and quotes from the holy book whatever suits the purpose.
This is a very sad time for us Muslims. Our relatives abroad are being slaughtered by, should I say "Christian" fanatics and their armies, our lands are occupied and being ruined. Our hopes of building normal lives, whether in the West or in the East are being shattered.
It seems to me that there is a long term under-current of trying to destroy our children belief in the faith of Islam, through
a) the destruction of our lands.
b) the constant humiliation of defeat, be it militarily, economics or argumentative.
c) the constant presentation of our religion as one of hate, violence, hatred, backwardness, suicide etc.
and right now, this strategy is becoming quite successful. Before long, we might even get our own muslim "representative" offering to have every Muslim of the land to where an identification badge and spy on each other.
Yes, we have a few, so very few, rotten apples. But those are constantly being paraded in front of the British media who relish in giving them interview and a plateform to express their stupidity and ignorance.
Its all a bloody propaganda, just thing of where this is meant to lead to. Awful contemplation.
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http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/08/17/menez es_osman_wideweb__430x253.jpg
Vasakul tapetud mees, paremal see, kelle pähe ta maha lasti.
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Metroos istet võtnud ei saanud ta siiski värsket lehte nautida, sest ta suruti vastu maad ja kõmmutati 8 kuuli pähe ja ülakehasse...
Politsei muidugi ei hoiatanud teda, et ta on sihikule võetud ega käskinud käsi üles tõsta jne...? Muig...
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RTFA. Mees oli juba "restrained" politseinike poolt kui ta maha lasti. Võibolla taheti kedagi koristada, aga sattus vale mees?
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Seda enam - kus on sensatsioon? Täie mõistusega täiskasvnu ei pane politsei eest jooksu peale hoiatuse saamist.
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Loe jutt läbi.
Mees jooksis rongi peale. Sa jookseks ise ka. Kuna ta milleski süüdi ei olnud siis ei pannud ta politseid tähele. Sina ka ei paneks mingis 100 inimesega vaksalis _kedagi_ kinni püüdvat politseid tähele kui Sa milleskis süüdi ei ole aga rong tahab nina alt ära minna ..
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Hahaha... "ei pannud politseid tähele" Hahahah... Nagu näha juuresolevalt pildilt, küllaltki saatuslik tähelepanematus...Mida politsei oleks pidanud tegema siis - betoonmüüri kahtlusaluse teele valama 2 sekundiga või? "Sa jookseks ise ka" - ma arvan, et ma enne ikka mõtleks vähemalt 1 korra kui jookseks politsei eest ära Londonis, kus paar päeva tagasi 56 inimest terroristide käe läbi surma sai...
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Eriti veel erariides politseinike puhul, keda on instrueeritud enda identiteeti mitte paljastama, et kahtlustatav ei saaks vastu rünnata.
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Oled 100 protsenti kindel? Ütleme et London oleks Sinu kodune keskkond, Sa oleks varem rongist maha jäänud (ja tööl peapesu saanud), Sa käiks selle rongiga iga jumala päev. Jaamas oleks palju inimesi. Ja siis tulevad mingid erariides tüüpid midagi karjuma. Nu las tulevad, Sul on vaja rongile jõuda, et mitte töölt kinga saada. Senikaua kuni Sa oma teada midagi teinud ei ole, siis politsei töö vaatamine on pigem õhtulehe lugemisega võrreldav tegevus.
Või ehk peavad kõik Londoni elanikud end kohe politsei jaoks potentsiaalseks kurjategijaks pidama ja nööri mööda käima?
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Juhin tähelepanu sellel, et need politseitüübid ei karjunud, ega teinud ennast üldse nähtavaks. See brasiilane märkas neid esimest korda alles rongis sees, sekund enne oma surma.
Üldiselt milleks üldse mingeid terroriste vaja läheb? Londonis on ju politsei juba olemas.
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Ehh .. sa ilmselt ei lugenud seda uudist absoluutselt läbi, segast on ju nii mõnus peksta. Mees lippas rongi ja istus maha. Sõna politsei peale tõusis ta püsti, et näha mis toimub. Selle peale tormas üks mees talle kallale, lükkas ta tooli tagasi ning litsus käed külgedele. Sellal kui nad seal istmes rüselesid lasti brasiillane maha. Muide, see on pärit sellesama mehe raportist, kes teda kinni hoidis. Tema tunnistuse kohaselt tõenäoliselt ohver isegi ei teadnud, et seal politseiga tegu on, kuna kõik inimesed olid erariietes. Kusjuures ta ise oli samuti üllatunud, miks oli vaja juba neutraliseeritud inimesele tina anda.
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- 1 vastus allpool su määratud taset.
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